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New web based pcb system
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Ouabache Designworks
2014-04-09 00:06:21 UTC
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http://easyeda.com/


Free to use and they will fab your board for a fee


John Eaton
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2014-04-09 15:01:40 UTC
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Post by Ouabache Designworks
http://easyeda.com/
Free to use and they will fab your board for a fee
John Eaton
According to the "About us" page, they were frustrated by the
unavailability of cheap, portable EDA software, so they built EasyEDA.
But it's the wrong solution, IMHO. Relying on hosted software for
your design is even worse than relying on proprietary software. If a
proprietary software vendor goes bust, at least you can keep using the
last version that you bought (possibly in a VM with an old OS). But
if the company behind a hosted solution goes bust, you lose
_everything_. You'll have no ability to maintain your designs
whatsoever.

That's why the world needs FOSS EDA tools.
John Griessen
2014-04-09 15:26:36 UTC
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Post by Ouabache Designworks
http://easyeda.com/
Free to use
"Ah yes, the old import everything, export only graphic files **vendor-lock-in** trick...",
said Maxwell Smart, as he looked up from his shoe-vid-phone.
Nathan Stewart
2014-04-09 15:33:53 UTC
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I'll agree with the assessment, but I'd love to be able to use PCB from a
tablet somehow. Currently the GL rendering makes even RDP or X
problematic.
Post by John Griessen
Post by Ouabache Designworks
http://easyeda.com/
Free to use
"Ah yes, the old import everything, export only graphic files
**vendor-lock-in** trick...",
said Maxwell Smart, as he looked up from his shoe-vid-phone.
Hannu Vuolasaho
2014-04-09 16:15:20 UTC
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I don't think web based EDA tools are bad thing. As long as you don't count on them too much. I think for web forums and other online collabration something like this

http://www.plantuml.com:80/plantuml/png/TOwz3e8m58LtdkBi19bOI9J1nEZGZHSevSOsfRr2Bo6ylIYEE9mpVUT7KUXeGd71ZQSveCQT5_IC1uBsX85wT8EBdgOcsv5YWzKUgt7b6Cd8bnD6LLMP-b-vcLWjXqsjTGcBNc55Ngakotus_gCddmo7iXdFsqZ-EvCdOobeSIOT3BPMHu-LvpS0

would be a great tool to have for collabration if the URL would give schematics. (PlantUML doesn't do that.) Anyone who has tried to explain ciruit without schematics knows it is hard.

If gschem had an autorouter and some basic components and djboxsym and some magic..... Well. Too difficult task for me at least.

But I found easyeda.com hard to use. Maybe I'm spoiled with the luxury of gEDA and PCB :)

Best regards,
Hannu Vuolasaho

Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:33:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [geda-user] New web based pcb system
From: therealnathanstewart-***@public.gmane.org
To: geda-user-***@public.gmane.org

I'll agree with the assessment, but I'd love to be able to use PCB from a tablet somehow.  Currently the GL rendering makes even RDP or X problematic. 



On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:26 AM, John Griessen <john-SOiioeR+***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

On 04/08/2014 07:06 PM, Ouabache Designworks wrote:




http://easyeda.com/





Free to use






"Ah yes, the old import everything, export only graphic files **vendor-lock-in** trick...",

said Maxwell Smart, as he looked up from his shoe-vid-phone.
Britton Kerin
2014-04-09 16:47:53 UTC
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Post by Hannu Vuolasaho
I don't think web based EDA tools are bad thing. As long as you don't count on them too much. I think for web forums and other online collabration something like this
http://www.plantuml.com:80/plantuml/png/TOwz3e8m58LtdkBi19bOI9J1nEZGZHSevSOsfRr2Bo6ylIYEE9mpVUT7KUXeGd71ZQSveCQT5_IC1uBsX85wT8EBdgOcsv5YWzKUgt7b6Cd8bnD6LLMP-b-vcLWjXqsjTGcBNc55Ngakotus_gCddmo7iXdFsqZ-EvCdOobeSIOT3BPMHu-LvpS0
would be a great tool to have for collabration if the URL would give schematics. (PlantUML doesn't do that.) Anyone who has tried to explain ciruit without schematics knows it is hard.
If gschem had an autorouter and some basic components and djboxsym and some magic..... Well. Too difficult task for me at least.
But I found easyeda.com hard to use. Maybe I'm spoiled with the luxury of gEDA and PCB :)
Its better than the others (upverter, autodesk). I don't know if any of
these projects are using non-opaque formats yet but if they are I'd love to
share their parts.

Britton
Ivan Stankovic
2014-04-09 19:08:39 UTC
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Post by Britton Kerin
Post by Hannu Vuolasaho
I don't think web based EDA tools are bad thing. As long as you don't count on them too much. I think for web forums and other online collabration something like this
http://www.plantuml.com:80/plantuml/png/TOwz3e8m58LtdkBi19bOI9J1nEZGZHSevSOsfRr2Bo6ylIYEE9mpVUT7KUXeGd71ZQSveCQT5_IC1uBsX85wT8EBdgOcsv5YWzKUgt7b6Cd8bnD6LLMP-b-vcLWjXqsjTGcBNc55Ngakotus_gCddmo7iXdFsqZ-EvCdOobeSIOT3BPMHu-LvpS0
would be a great tool to have for collabration if the URL would give schematics. (PlantUML doesn't do that.) Anyone who has tried to explain ciruit without schematics knows it is hard.
If gschem had an autorouter and some basic components and djboxsym and some magic..... Well. Too difficult task for me at least.
But I found easyeda.com hard to use. Maybe I'm spoiled with the luxury of gEDA and PCB :)
Its better than the others (upverter, autodesk). I don't know if any of
these projects are using non-opaque formats yet but if they are I'd love to
share their parts.
I know that upverter at least uses an open format based on JSON,
it's even reasonably well documented.
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Andy Fierman
2014-07-23 11:10:57 UTC
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A bit late in the thread but I'd like to add a couple of comments.

"But it's the wrong solution, IMHO. Relying on hosted software for
your design is even worse than relying on proprietary software. If a
proprietary software vendor goes bust, at least you can keep using the
last version that you bought (possibly in a VM with an old OS). But
if the company behind a hosted solution goes bust, you lose
_everything_. You'll have no ability to maintain your designs
whatsoever."

That is true of many web based services but is not the case with EasyEDA.

In their "A letter from the EasyEDA team."

http://easyeda.com/cms_files_a-letter-from-the-easyeda-team.htm

the answer to:

"Q3: What if EasyEDA cannot become self sustaining and has to close down?"

explains that they have an exit strategy for if the venture fails to be self-
sustaining:


"Its better than the others (upverter, autodesk). I don't know if any of
these projects are using non-opaque formats yet but if they are I'd love to
share their parts."

EasyEDA uses the JSON file format for everything. So schematics, symbols, PCB
layouts, footprints, can all be exported via:

Document > EasyEDA Source...

Sometime soon they will be giving information for people to write their own
plugins so import from and export to gEDA should be pretty straight forward.

:)

Andy

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